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2007-04-25[SK_BUFF]: Introduce tcp_hdr(), remove skb->h.thArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2007-04-25[TCP]: whitespace cleanupStephen Hemminger
Add whitespace around keywords. Signed-off-by: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2007-04-25[NET]: Convert xtime.tv_sec to get_seconds()James Morris
Where appropriate, convert references to xtime.tv_sec to the get_seconds() helper function. Signed-off-by: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2007-04-25[TCP]: Keep copied_seq, rcv_wup and rcv_next together.Eric Dumazet
I noticed in oprofile study a cache miss in tcp_rcv_established() to read copied_seq. ffffffff80400a80 <tcp_rcv_established>: /* tcp_rcv_established total: 4034293   2.0400 */  55493  0.0281 :ffffffff80400bc9:   mov    0x4c8(%r12),%eax copied_seq 543103  0.2746 :ffffffff80400bd1:   cmp    0x3e0(%r12),%eax   rcv_nxt     if (tp->copied_seq == tp->rcv_nxt &&         len - tcp_header_len <= tp->ucopy.len) { In this function, the cache line 0x4c0 -> 0x500 is used only for this reading 'copied_seq' field. rcv_wup and copied_seq should be next to rcv_nxt field, to lower number of active cache lines in hot paths. (tcp_rcv_established(), tcp_poll(), ...) As you suggested, I changed tcp_create_openreq_child() so that these fields are changed together, to avoid adding a new store buffer stall. Patch is 64bit friendly (no new hole because of alignment constraints) Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2007-02-28[TCP]: Fix minisock tcp_create_openreq_child() typo.Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
On 2/28/07, KOVACS Krisztian <hidden@balabit.hu> wrote: > > Hi, > > While reading TCP minisock code I've found this suspiciously looking > code fragment: > > - 8< - > struct sock *tcp_create_openreq_child(struct sock *sk, struct request_sock *req, struct sk_buff *skb) > { > struct sock *newsk = inet_csk_clone(sk, req, GFP_ATOMIC); > > if (newsk != NULL) { > const struct inet_request_sock *ireq = inet_rsk(req); > struct tcp_request_sock *treq = tcp_rsk(req); > struct inet_connection_sock *newicsk = inet_csk(sk); > struct tcp_sock *newtp; > - 8< - > > The above code initializes newicsk to inet_csk(sk), isn't that supposed > to be inet_csk(newsk)? As far as I can tell this might leave > icsk_ack.last_seg_size zero even if we do have received data. Good catch! David, please apply the attached patch. Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2007-02-10[NET] IPV4: Fix whitespace errors.YOSHIFUJI Hideaki
Signed-off-by: YOSHIFUJI Hideaki <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2006-12-05Merge branch 'master' of ↵David Howells
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6 Conflicts: drivers/infiniband/core/iwcm.c drivers/net/chelsio/cxgb2.c drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx_main.c drivers/net/wireless/prism54/islpci_eth.c drivers/usb/core/hub.h drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c net/core/netpoll.c Fix up merge failures with Linus's head and fix new compilation failures. Signed-Off-By: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
2006-12-02[TCP] minisocks: Use kmemdup and LIMIT_NETDEBUGArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Code diff stats: [acme@newtoy net-2.6.20]$ codiff /tmp/tcp_minisocks.o.before /tmp/tcp_minisocks.o.after /pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/acme/net-2.6.20/net/ipv4/tcp_minisocks.c: tcp_check_req | -44 1 function changed, 44 bytes removed [acme@newtoy net-2.6.20]$ Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@mandriva.com>
2006-12-02[IPV6]: Assorted trivial endianness annotations.Al Viro
Signed-off-by: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2006-12-02[TCP]: Fix some warning when MD5 is disabled.David S. Miller
Just some mis-placed ifdefs: net/ipv4/tcp_minisocks.c: In function ‘tcp_twsk_destructor’: net/ipv4/tcp_minisocks.c:364: warning: unused variable ‘twsk’ net/ipv6/tcp_ipv6.c:1846: warning: ‘tcp_sock_ipv6_specific’ defined but not used net/ipv6/tcp_ipv6.c:1877: warning: ‘tcp_sock_ipv6_mapped_specific’ defined but not used Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2006-12-02[TCP]: MD5 Signature Option (RFC2385) support.YOSHIFUJI Hideaki
Based on implementation by Rick Payne. Signed-off-by: YOSHIFUJI Hideaki <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2006-11-22WorkStruct: Pass the work_struct pointer instead of context dataDavid Howells
Pass the work_struct pointer to the work function rather than context data. The work function can use container_of() to work out the data. For the cases where the container of the work_struct may go away the moment the pending bit is cleared, it is made possible to defer the release of the structure by deferring the clearing of the pending bit. To make this work, an extra flag is introduced into the management side of the work_struct. This governs auto-release of the structure upon execution. Ordinarily, the work queue executor would release the work_struct for further scheduling or deallocation by clearing the pending bit prior to jumping to the work function. This means that, unless the driver makes some guarantee itself that the work_struct won't go away, the work function may not access anything else in the work_struct or its container lest they be deallocated.. This is a problem if the auxiliary data is taken away (as done by the last patch). However, if the pending bit is *not* cleared before jumping to the work function, then the work function *may* access the work_struct and its container with no problems. But then the work function must itself release the work_struct by calling work_release(). In most cases, automatic release is fine, so this is the default. Special initiators exist for the non-auto-release case (ending in _NAR). Signed-Off-By: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
2006-09-22[NET/IPV4/IPV6]: Change some sysctl variables to __read_mostlyBrian Haley
Change net/core, ipv4 and ipv6 sysctl variables to __read_mostly. Couldn't actually measure any performance increase while testing (.3% I consider noise), but seems like the right thing to do. Signed-off-by: Brian Haley <brian.haley@hp.com> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2006-08-02[TCP]: SNMPv2 tcpAttemptFails counter errorWei Yongjun
Refer to RFC2012, tcpAttemptFails is defined as following: tcpAttemptFails OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX Counter32 MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "The number of times TCP connections have made a direct transition to the CLOSED state from either the SYN-SENT state or the SYN-RCVD state, plus the number of times TCP connections have made a direct transition to the LISTEN state from the SYN-RCVD state." ::= { tcp 7 } When I lookup into RFC793, I found that the state change should occured under following condition: 1. SYN-SENT -> CLOSED a) Received ACK,RST segment when SYN-SENT state. 2. SYN-RCVD -> CLOSED b) Received SYN segment when SYN-RCVD state(came from LISTEN). c) Received RST segment when SYN-RCVD state(came from SYN-SENT). d) Received SYN segment when SYN-RCVD state(came from SYN-SENT). 3. SYN-RCVD -> LISTEN e) Received RST segment when SYN-RCVD state(came from LISTEN). In my test, those direct state transition can not be counted to tcpAttemptFails. Signed-off-by: Wei Yongjun <yjwei@nanjing-fnst.com> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2006-07-03[PATCH] lockdep: locking init debugging improvementIngo Molnar
Locking init improvement: - introduce and use __SPIN_LOCK_UNLOCKED for array initializations, to pass in the name string of locks, used by debugging Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> Signed-off-by: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2006-06-30Remove obsolete #include <linux/config.h>Jörn Engel
Signed-off-by: Jörn Engel <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> Signed-off-by: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
2006-06-29[NET]: Add ECN support for TSOMichael Chan
In the current TSO implementation, NETIF_F_TSO and ECN cannot be turned on together in a TCP connection. The problem is that most hardware that supports TSO does not handle CWR correctly if it is set in the TSO packet. Correct handling requires CWR to be set in the first packet only if it is set in the TSO header. This patch adds the ability to turn on NETIF_F_TSO and ECN using GSO if necessary to handle TSO packets with CWR set. Hardware that handles CWR correctly can turn on NETIF_F_TSO_ECN in the dev-> features flag. All TSO packets with CWR set will have the SKB_GSO_TCPV4_ECN set. If the output device does not have the NETIF_F_TSO_ECN feature set, GSO will split the packet up correctly with CWR only set in the first segment. With help from Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>. Since ECN can always be enabled with TSO, the SOCK_NO_LARGESEND sock flag is completely removed. Signed-off-by: Michael Chan <mchan@broadcom.com> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2006-01-03[IPV6]: Introduce inet6_timewait_sockArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Out of tcp6_timewait_sock, that now is just an aggregation of inet_timewait_sock and inet6_timewait_sock, using tw_ipv6_offset in struct inet_timewait_sock, that is common to the IPv6 transport protocols that use timewait sockets, like DCCP and TCP. tw_ipv6_offset plays the struct inet_sock pinfo6 role, i.e. for the generic code to find the IPv6 area in a timewait sock. Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@mandriva.com> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2006-01-03[ICSK]: Rename struct tcp_func to struct inet_connection_sock_af_opsArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
And move it to struct inet_connection_sock. DCCP will use it in the upcoming changesets. Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@mandriva.com> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-11-10[TCP]: spelling fixesStephen Hemminger
Minor spelling fixes for TCP code. Signed-off-by: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-11-10[TCP]: Appropriate Byte Count supportStephen Hemminger
This is an updated version of the RFC3465 ABC patch originally for Linux 2.6.11-rc4 by Yee-Ting Li. ABC is a way of counting bytes ack'd rather than packets when updating congestion control. The orignal ABC described in the RFC applied to a Reno style algorithm. For advanced congestion control there is little change after leaving slow start. Signed-off-by: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-09-21[TCP]: Set default congestion control correctly for incoming connections.Stephen Hemminger
Patch from Joel Sing to fix the default congestion control algorithm for incoming connections. If a new congestion control handler is added (via module), it should become the default for new connections. Instead, the incoming connections use reno. The cause is incorrect initialisation causes the tcp_init_congestion_control() function to return after the initial if test fails. Signed-off-by: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org> Acked-by: Ian McDonald <imcdnzl@gmail.com> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-08-29[ICSK]: Move TCP congestion avoidance members to icskArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
This changeset basically moves tcp_sk()->{ca_ops,ca_state,etc} to inet_csk(), minimal renaming/moving done in this changeset to ease review. Most of it is just changes of struct tcp_sock * to struct sock * parameters. With this we move to a state closer to two interesting goals: 1. Generalisation of net/ipv4/tcp_diag.c, becoming inet_diag.c, being used for any INET transport protocol that has struct inet_hashinfo and are derived from struct inet_connection_sock. Keeps the userspace API, that will just not display DCCP sockets, while newer versions of tools can support DCCP. 2. INET generic transport pluggable Congestion Avoidance infrastructure, using the current TCP CA infrastructure with DCCP. Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@mandriva.com> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-08-29[TIMEWAIT]: Move inet_timewait_death_row routines to ↵Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
net/ipv4/inet_timewait_sock.c Also export the ones that will be used in the next changeset, when DCCP uses this infrastructure. Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@mandriva.com> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-08-29[TIMEWAIT]: Introduce inet_timewait_death_rowArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
That groups all of the tables and variables associated to the TCP timewait schedulling/recycling/killing code, that now can be isolated from the TCP specific code and used by other transport protocols, such as DCCP. Next changeset will move this code to net/ipv4/inet_timewait_sock.c Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@mandriva.com> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-08-29[ICSK]: Introduce reqsk_queue_prune from code in tcp_synack_timerArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
With this we're very close to getting all of the current TCP refactorings in my dccp-2.6 tree merged, next changeset will export some functions needed by the current DCCP code and then dccp-2.6.git will be born! Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-08-29[ICSK]: Introduce inet_csk_cloneArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-08-29[NET]: Introduce inet_connection_sockArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
This creates struct inet_connection_sock, moving members out of struct tcp_sock that are shareable with other INET connection oriented protocols, such as DCCP, that in my private tree already uses most of these members. The functions that operate on these members were renamed, using a inet_csk_ prefix while not being moved yet to a new file, so as to ease the review of these changes. Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-08-29[SOCK]: Introduce sk_cloneArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Out of tcp_create_openreq_child, will be used in dccp_create_openreq_child, and is a nice sock function anyway. Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-08-29[INET_TWSK]: Introduce inet_twsk_allocArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
With the parts of tcp_time_wait that are not TCP specific, tcp_time_wait uses it and so will dccp_time_wait. Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-08-29[INET]: Generalise the TCP sock ID lookup routinesArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
And also some TIME_WAIT functions. [acme@toy net-2.6.14]$ grep built-in /tmp/before.size /tmp/after.size /tmp/before.size: 282955 13122 9312 305389 4a8ed net/ipv4/built-in.o /tmp/after.size: 281566 13122 9312 304000 4a380 net/ipv4/built-in.o [acme@toy net-2.6.14]$ I kept them still inlined, will uninline at some point to see what would be the performance difference. Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-08-29[INET]: Generalise tcp_tw_bucket, aka TIME_WAIT socketsArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
This paves the way to generalise the rest of the sock ID lookup routines and saves some bytes in TCPv4 TIME_WAIT sockets on distro kernels (where IPv6 is always built as a module): [root@qemu ~]# grep tw_sock /proc/slabinfo tw_sock_TCPv6 0 0 128 31 1 tw_sock_TCP 0 0 96 41 1 [root@qemu ~]# Now if a protocol wants to use the TIME_WAIT generic infrastructure it only has to set the sk_prot->twsk_obj_size field with the size of its inet_timewait_sock derived sock and proto_register will create sk_prot->twsk_slab, for now its only for INET sockets, but we can introduce timewait_sock later if some non INET transport protocolo wants to use this stuff. Next changesets will take advantage of this new infrastructure to generalise even more TCP code. [acme@toy net-2.6.14]$ grep built-in /tmp/before.size /tmp/after.size /tmp/before.size: 188646 11764 5068 205478 322a6 net/ipv4/built-in.o /tmp/after.size: 188144 11764 5068 204976 320b0 net/ipv4/built-in.o [acme@toy net-2.6.14]$ Tested with both IPv4 & IPv6 (::1 (localhost) & ::ffff:172.20.0.1 (qemu host)). Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-08-29[INET]: Move tcp_port_rover to inet_hashinfoArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Also expose all of the tcp_hashinfo members, i.e. killing those tcp_ehash, etc macros, this will more clearly expose already generic functions and some that need just a bit of work to become generic, as we'll see in the upcoming changesets. Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-08-29[INET]: Move bind_hash from tcp_sk to inet_skArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
This should really be in a inet_connection_sock, but I'm leaving it for a later optimization, when some more fields common to INET transport protocols now in tcp_sk or inet_sk will be chunked out into inet_connection_sock, for now its better to concentrate on getting the changes in the core merged to leave the DCCP tree with only DCCP specific code. Next changesets will take advantage of this move to generalise things like tcp_bind_hash, tcp_put_port, tcp_inherit_port, making the later receive a inet_hashinfo parameter, and even __tcp_tw_hashdance, etc in the future, when tcp_tw_bucket gets transformed into the struct timewait_sock hierarchy. tcp_destroy_sock also is eligible as soon as tcp_orphan_count gets moved to sk_prot. A cascade of incremental changes will ultimately make the tcp_lookup functions be fully generic. Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-08-29[INET]: Just rename the TCP hashtable functions/structs to inet_Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
This is to break down the complexity of the series of patches, making it very clear that this one just does: 1. renames tcp_ prefixed hashtable functions and data structures that were already mostly generic to inet_ to share it with DCCP and other INET transport protocols. 2. Removes not used functions (__tb_head & tb_head) 3. Removes some leftover prototypes in the headers (tcp_bucket_unlock & tcp_v4_build_header) Next changesets will move tcp_sk(sk)->bind_hash to inet_sock so that we can make functions such as tcp_inherit_port, __tcp_inherit_port, tcp_v4_get_port, __tcp_put_port, generic and get others like tcp_destroy_sock closer to generic (tcp_orphan_count will go to sk->sk_prot to allow this). Eventually most of these functions will be used passing the transport protocol inet_hashinfo structure. Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-08-29[SOCK]: Introduce sk_setup_capsArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
From tcp_v4_setup_caps, that always is preceded by a call to __sk_dst_set, so coalesce this sequence into sk_setup_caps, removing one call to a TCP function in the IP layer. Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-08-29[NET]: Cleanup INET_REFCNT_DEBUG codeArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-06-23[TCP]: Add pluggable congestion control algorithm infrastructure.Stephen Hemminger
Allow TCP to have multiple pluggable congestion control algorithms. Algorithms are defined by a set of operations and can be built in or modules. The legacy "new RENO" algorithm is used as a starting point and fallback. Signed-off-by: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-06-18[NET] Generalise tcp_listen_optArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
This chunks out the accept_queue and tcp_listen_opt code and moves them to net/core/request_sock.c and include/net/request_sock.h, to make it useful for other transport protocols, DCCP being the first one to use it. Next patches will rename tcp_listen_opt to accept_sock and remove the inline tcp functions that just call a reqsk_queue_ function. Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-06-18[NET] Rename open_request to request_sockArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Ok, this one just renames some stuff to have a better namespace and to dissassociate it from TCP: struct open_request -> struct request_sock tcp_openreq_alloc -> reqsk_alloc tcp_openreq_free -> reqsk_free tcp_openreq_fastfree -> __reqsk_free With this most of the infrastructure closely resembles a struct sock methods subset. Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-06-18[NET] Generalise TCP's struct open_request minisock infrastructureArnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Kept this first changeset minimal, without changing existing names to ease peer review. Basicaly tcp_openreq_alloc now receives the or_calltable, that in turn has two new members: ->slab, that replaces tcp_openreq_cachep ->obj_size, to inform the size of the openreq descendant for a specific protocol The protocol specific fields in struct open_request were moved to a class hierarchy, with the things that are common to all connection oriented PF_INET protocols in struct inet_request_sock, the TCP ones in tcp_request_sock, that is an inet_request_sock, that is an open_request. I.e. this uses the same approach used for the struct sock class hierarchy, with sk_prot indicating if the protocol wants to use the open_request infrastructure by filling in sk_prot->rsk_prot with an or_calltable. Results? Performance is improved and TCP v4 now uses only 64 bytes per open request minisock, down from 96 without this patch :-) Next changeset will rename some of the structs, fields and functions mentioned above, struct or_calltable is way unclear, better name it struct request_sock_ops, s/struct open_request/struct request_sock/g, etc. Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net> Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
2005-05-05[PATCH] update Ross Biro bouncing email addressJesper Juhl
Ross moved. Remove the bad email address so people will find the correct one in ./CREDITS. Signed-off-by: Jesper Juhl <juhl-lkml@dif.dk> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-04-16Linux-2.6.12-rc2v2.6.12-rc2Linus Torvalds
Initial git repository build. I'm not bothering with the full history, even though we have it. We can create a separate "historical" git archive of that later if we want to, and in the meantime it's about 3.2GB when imported into git - space that would just make the early git days unnecessarily complicated, when we don't have a lot of good infrastructure for it. Let it rip!